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	<title>Comments on: The revolution will not be televised</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Stegall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Stegall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, I think this is a fantastic post, and want to be another person to welcome you from a different angle. It&#039;s great to see comments like Mike&#039;s - and I can affirm that most Emergents are really interested in welcoming newer voices, voices from other areas, etc.

I&#039;ve been around for a while, though I came in through the punk and goth and metal churches/movements, but I generally feel very welcomed within these conversations, and as though people feel I have unique and valuable things to offer. You do as well, as I&#039;m sure you know, but it never hurts to hear it a few times. Thanks for writing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, I think this is a fantastic post, and want to be another person to welcome you from a different angle. It&#8217;s great to see comments like Mike&#8217;s &#8211; and I can affirm that most Emergents are really interested in welcoming newer voices, voices from other areas, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been around for a while, though I came in through the punk and goth and metal churches/movements, but I generally feel very welcomed within these conversations, and as though people feel I have unique and valuable things to offer. You do as well, as I&#8217;m sure you know, but it never hurts to hear it a few times. Thanks for writing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Perspective on Emergent &#124; jonathan stegall: creative tension</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perspective on Emergent &#124; jonathan stegall: creative tension</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carol Howard Merritt - The revolution will not be televised [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drew Tatusko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Tatusko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stushie,

I can&#039;t speak for the emergent idea of change, but sociologically and politically the world is a vastly different place where multiple socio-political and economic frames interact and overlap that simply did not do so before in the way they are now. One crucial example is that West versus East is a lost global comparison. Now it is North versus South for many many reasons and religion is certainly one of them. The &quot;world&quot; of local influence may seem as if it has not changed much for many Americans, but even in my little town of Duncansville, PA we are dealing with increased pockets of drug activity, increased illegal immigrants, and a severe issue with unemployment directly attributable to what has happened in the post-industrial (a very practical and measurable term by the way) economy. These are enormous changes and the church needs to understand its place in the midst of it. What is the church here to do, with whom, who is going to do it, and how will we know if we have done it? Nothing can be taken for granted anymore since we seem to be working with flawed assumptions of how the world works and how the church fits into that picture. To me, at least, this is the core of what is &quot;emerging&quot; if you will. A dialogue that is trying to re-imagine what our new socio-cultural assumptions are and what the right theological voice is to make change happen in people&#039;s lives where they are with the revelation of the Gospel in their midst. I call the dialogue &quot;meta-denominational&quot; since it does away with assumed church structures in order to imagine new ones that make sense with the changes in the world that are as evident as gravity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stushie,</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for the emergent idea of change, but sociologically and politically the world is a vastly different place where multiple socio-political and economic frames interact and overlap that simply did not do so before in the way they are now. One crucial example is that West versus East is a lost global comparison. Now it is North versus South for many many reasons and religion is certainly one of them. The &#8220;world&#8221; of local influence may seem as if it has not changed much for many Americans, but even in my little town of Duncansville, PA we are dealing with increased pockets of drug activity, increased illegal immigrants, and a severe issue with unemployment directly attributable to what has happened in the post-industrial (a very practical and measurable term by the way) economy. These are enormous changes and the church needs to understand its place in the midst of it. What is the church here to do, with whom, who is going to do it, and how will we know if we have done it? Nothing can be taken for granted anymore since we seem to be working with flawed assumptions of how the world works and how the church fits into that picture. To me, at least, this is the core of what is &#8220;emerging&#8221; if you will. A dialogue that is trying to re-imagine what our new socio-cultural assumptions are and what the right theological voice is to make change happen in people&#8217;s lives where they are with the revelation of the Gospel in their midst. I call the dialogue &#8220;meta-denominational&#8221; since it does away with assumed church structures in order to imagine new ones that make sense with the changes in the world that are as evident as gravity.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Howard Merritt</title>
		<link>http://tribalchurch.org/?p=1278&#038;cpage=1#comment-9694</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Howard Merritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew said: &quot;I fired off another set of comments today that your betrothed might find interesting…&quot; 

Yes, he did! So did I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew said: &#8220;I fired off another set of comments today that your betrothed might find interesting…&#8221; </p>
<p>Yes, he did! So did I.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Howard Merritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Howard Merritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

That&#039;s good to hear. Especially since I know that when y&#039;all put your minds to something it usually get done. For example--more women in leadership. It&#039;s wonderful to see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christianity21.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christianity 21&lt;/a&gt;. I wish that I could attend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>That&#8217;s good to hear. Especially since I know that when y&#8217;all put your minds to something it usually get done. For example&#8211;more women in leadership. It&#8217;s wonderful to see <a href="http://www.christianity21.com/" rel="nofollow">Christianity 21</a>. I wish that I could attend.</p>
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		<title>By: Stushie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stushie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the world changing...it&#039;s just another theological phase/trend that will be replaced by post-emergents...there&#039;s nothing new under the sun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the world changing&#8230;it&#8217;s just another theological phase/trend that will be replaced by post-emergents&#8230;there&#8217;s nothing new under the sun</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Clawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Clawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, I just want to second what Mike Stavlund said. Most Emergents I know are very concerned about newcomers and are eager to make space for y&#039;all and help you along the path we&#039;ve been on. That&#039;s been one of my driving passions these past five years or so, for instance. Don&#039;t let Josh&#039;s comment phase you. He just seems to be pretty negative on a lot of stuff lately, and he doesn&#039;t speak for the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, I just want to second what Mike Stavlund said. Most Emergents I know are very concerned about newcomers and are eager to make space for y&#8217;all and help you along the path we&#8217;ve been on. That&#8217;s been one of my driving passions these past five years or so, for instance. Don&#8217;t let Josh&#8217;s comment phase you. He just seems to be pretty negative on a lot of stuff lately, and he doesn&#8217;t speak for the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Baker-Wright</title>
		<link>http://tribalchurch.org/?p=1278&#038;cpage=1#comment-9664</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Baker-Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You asking me?  I though it was obvious that we were talking about the emerging movement.  Or are you trying to say that &quot;movement&quot; isn&#039;t a good word to talk about emerging things, which is really a rather different discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You asking me?  I though it was obvious that we were talking about the emerging movement.  Or are you trying to say that &#8220;movement&#8221; isn&#8217;t a good word to talk about emerging things, which is really a rather different discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Stushie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stushie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What movement?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Baker-Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Baker-Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all a little surreal to me.  When I started seminary, &quot;emergent&quot; wasn&#039;t yet a buzz-word (my wife, who was in an inner-city church ministry for 8 years, often says she was &quot;emergent&quot; before anyone knew what that was), and in fact Karen Sloan was at Fuller at about the same time I was (I think she started a &lt;i&gt;little&lt;/i&gt; later, but while she graduated and moved on to bigger and better things, I&#039;m still sorting things out).  Now barely more than a decade later, it&#039;s apparently suffering some growing pains.

I wouldn&#039;t count the movement out just yet.  Any movement has to re-commit to (or perhaps re-define) its core principles as it grows beyond the original people who made it work, and invariably changes and refines as part of that process.  I&#039;m sure that many good things will continue to come as a result of the work that emerging folks (and their descendants?) are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all a little surreal to me.  When I started seminary, &#8220;emergent&#8221; wasn&#8217;t yet a buzz-word (my wife, who was in an inner-city church ministry for 8 years, often says she was &#8220;emergent&#8221; before anyone knew what that was), and in fact Karen Sloan was at Fuller at about the same time I was (I think she started a <i>little</i> later, but while she graduated and moved on to bigger and better things, I&#8217;m still sorting things out).  Now barely more than a decade later, it&#8217;s apparently suffering some growing pains.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t count the movement out just yet.  Any movement has to re-commit to (or perhaps re-define) its core principles as it grows beyond the original people who made it work, and invariably changes and refines as part of that process.  I&#8217;m sure that many good things will continue to come as a result of the work that emerging folks (and their descendants?) are doing.</p>
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